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Christopher Ryan
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Geothermal Energy Options - How It Works
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Geothermal Energy Options - How It Works Geothermal Energy Options is a full service geothermal heating and cooling company. We engineer, design and install residential and commercial systems and specialize in direct exchange geothermal. We are certified by BPI, IGSHPA, NYSERDA and part of Central Hudson's Trade Allies and The Connecticut Clean Energy Fund. All of our employees are trained and ...
Geothermal Energy Options - Retrofit
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6 Ton DX Geothermal Retrofit in LaGrange, NY. Nordic Ground Source Heat Pumps.
Its probably better if I don't say anything and make everyone feel stupid
There is an easier, more useful and better way than digging all of this just for the sake of extending pipes, and it can be used anywhere on the earth under special conditions according to each region and at a lower cost. But the idea needs support from anyone I might partner with in this innovation
160 degrees Celsius. I think that this heat needs other additions to benefit from it in the winter, but in the summer, unlike the circuit, something dangerous will happen and requires safety measures because the heat will increase when it is pumped into the ground.
Common in Sweden. I installed my system 15 years ago. My borehole is 145 meters. Today the boreholes are 180 meters.
I have seen a multiple vertical well system fail to make design Delta T. Like not even close. Vertical wells in parallel, up and down the same hole. But the designers were oh so politically correct.
That's not how geothermal work at all, You will never send refrigerant to the ground, Instead you use water or antifreeze and a circulating pump, there is a heat exchanger to transfer heat from/to water to another refrigerant circuit that actually has the compressor, expansion valve and a condenser (heat mode) or an evaporator (cool mode), from there a blower that blows air through the condenser/evaporator coils and take the conditioned air into the house's main duct system to condition the rooms.
Do you still need AC power on the compressor?
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Could you please explain how the number of Wells required is determined?
There is an easier, more useful and better way than digging all of this just for the sake of extending pipes, and it can be used anywhere on the earth under special conditions according to each region and at a lower cost. But the idea needs support from anyone I might partner with in this innovation
are thos degres fahrenheit? Also, do the pipes get clogged or less efficient with time?
What does the compressor run on? Which power ?
what gas medium is used in this case?
Wow if that stuff has to be replaced.
Just buy an air conditioner.
Still the same principle. I hope the increase in attention to geothermal benefits you.
Thanks for sharing. it answers a part of the question I get a lot: "How much space is needed to install the system."
What’s the return on investment for a homeowner
It uses electrisity to circulate the refrigerant by compression and to run the fans. It uses electricity, You are lying.
Geothermal Energy Options - How It Works
The ground is 55 degrees how does that work
Please give me the video. Thank you
Not sure if this is cost effective? The ground raises the refrigerant temp from 20 to 30 degrees, only a 10 degree increase, for a lot of money and work.
So, this IS a ground source heat pump. It just does away with the secondary loop that is normally filled with water or coolant. I question the 25% gains over the water loop variant. In a well designed water loop version, the only difference would be the power draw of the water circ pump, which is a tiny draw compared to the rest of the system. On the other side of it, the cost of that much copper tubing and the massive volume of coolant would be a significant increase in initial cost. If the copper in the ground ever corroded or was damaged, the repair costs would be massive as well. HDPE, on the other hand is extremely durable and will never corrode. If it did get damaged, it's cheap to replace and so is the coolant or water in the lines. I've seen a lot of ground source systems put in over the years, and I've NEVER heard of burying copper. I'm thinking that if it were a good idea, and the gains were real, we'd be seeing more of it.
Yeah very interesting use of copper. Funny enough when I started looking into geothermal I assumed everyone used copper due to its heat dissipation properties. until I saw HDPE being used everywhere due to its gradual but larger surface area.
My thought also the copper would corrode plus then it would need to be replaced... The copper tubing that is relatively easy to obtain (commercially viable) is also very thin so corroding to a failure state would not take so long ?
Its like watching a TV show from the 60s, because they use feet and Fahrenheit, while us in modern countries use metres and Celsius. Greatest country in the world, the USA ...yeah, right, lol.
I like how they showed a mansion insinuating its not for broke ass bitches.
With plans from Avasva you can make it really easy.
I feel like this is a less robust design. Having high pressure refrigerant lines snake all the way out into your yard and down 100 foot bore holes. The better design is to use water loops to move the heat into ground then have a heat exchanger for a shorter normal refrigerant loop. I realize this requires an extra heat exchanger and a pump, but that pump really doesn't have to be very big or powerful. But its a more robust design.
7 foot diameter holes! Wow!!! 1:10
how much a system like this will cost? which states do you work at?
Ryan Where are you located? And how to contact you? LOCATION?
Heloooo greeting from INDONESIA . . . .the BIGEST land of it
I like how they talk about the underground temperature as this constant. Well it is kinda constant as long as you dont tap into it, but once you do it will deplete it. How much and how quick depends on the specific conditions, but basically the temp down there is the annual mean temp of the region. So if you cool it and dont heat then the average will come down. So to keep the efficiency as good as it is in the first year you have to pump heat in it close to the amount taken out. This makes it more like a seasonal storage and less like deep bore geothermal. So if you want a system like this calculate some kind of solar collector in the bill to pump the heat in in the summer. (unless you live somwhere that is too damn hot and have short mild winters and use the same loop for ac)
You are still using electricity to run the compressor and fan.
So can this work in any part of the world or is it limited
So I’m wondering how the compressor gets it’s power? Through electricity ?
Indeed. The trick is that for every kW of electricity you put in to it, you get a total of 5 kW of heat, so you get 80% of your energy "for free" from the ground.
this is good explanation about heating pumps
So the difference in air temperature with that of the soil (54 F), is the gain?
No, The ground is constant and absorbs the heat as the refrigerant changes state.
And your bill will be four times higher
Your electric bill may be higher but the over all energy bill drops about 70%, as the geo system units operate at about 18 cents per hour. These are the facts.
Your plan using copper pipe in the year 2020 is a nonstarter the corrosive nature of the pipe is an in Normas enormous negative the plastic is going to land the ground for the next 50 to 100 years without change the copper tubing in 3 to 5 years will have decayed.
Copper come naturally from the ground so it can last for ever. There are still copper pipes in the ground in Egypt that have been there for thousands of years. As long as its done correctly corrosion will not take place. The pros out weigh the cons when it comes to copper vs. plastic.
But how much electricity is used to run the compressors? Is it more or less than a regular air conditioners?
About 50% less
@@geothermalenergyops The entire year or just right after its started, for a few hours? Maybe the soil doesnt radiate the energy as well after a few hours of use.
Thanks!
Do you work internationally?
No
I couldn’t work out how this system works, until I saw the illustration with the compressor. Very efficient compressor, and environmentally friendly. Good for our future sustainability.
I once came across a Thermosyphon system with no pumps. Seemed to work well.
John Clarke more for hot water than circulating heating round buildings?
not the best use of so much copper. a small pump with a battery charged from solar would be a better use of resources.
bazoozoo or wind turbine.
I must be stupid.
How do you address corrosion and leaks in the underground copper lines? What is the ground loop warranty for leaks?
good point
Good question. The lifespan of copper piping is 50 years. Should there be a leak pipes can be replaced but with the average lifespan of half a century and the elimination of heating and cooling bill from AC, heating oil, or electricity there is still a cost savings. AC also breaks down as does a furnace but overall this system is much more environmentally friendly and cheaper I’d say
This is the more expensive way the water based system is cheeper to run.
If you using coolent n compressors I don't think youl save much ! What's the difference from a heat pump ! Other than gas for heat ? Ac used fluid n compressors n fans ! You took nothing away ! Buried tubes n fan is the money saver !
is it possible for refrigerant to contaminate ground water...if pipes leaks?. leaks happen .
Mean the heat transfer
This is not geothermal, this is ground heat source, and energy is from the Sun. This is actually solar system. Geothermal systems take a heat actually from earth, aka hot magma that warms up rocks or underground in thin places of the crust, and is only really useful in limited locations. Few well known ones, Iceland and some places in California. But of course there are thousands more of varying economical potential, depending on depth needed, and water temperature, and chemical composition and reserves.